Showing posts with label new goat friends. Show all posts
Showing posts with label new goat friends. Show all posts

Tuesday, June 16, 2015

Growing Little Ones!

First off, I am sorry that I am just now realizing that I didn't post about this sooner! These precious little ones were born on May 30, 2015 (the first one hundred degree day of the year), to Lone Star South MsMcallie and Jaune Ranch Pygmies Powerstroke. As of this morning, they are 16 days old. The little buckling (more silver of the two) has been larger all along. Here is today's update on weight...


This morning, the silly little family HAD to have the fresh pellets, not the ones the knocked over last night. 

This is the little doeling i the weighing bucket. She is so sweet and loves to cuddle! 


I don't know why I cannot get this photo right side up, but weight today is 3 lbs 12 oz. Late last week she was 2 lbs 4 oz. So while she is markedly smaller than her brother, she is still growing.


And here is the little buckling. When they were last weighed, he was at 3 lbs 14 oz. 


This morning, here he is at 4 lbs 14 oz. Oh, goodness, he will be a big one!


We had been supplementing the little doeling with additional milk early on, when she was having trouble i the heat of the day. At this point, she hasn't wanted the extra milk, though we continue to offer it. Both little ones are eating some hay, and enjoying the crumbles from mama's hay pellets.

Such a treat watching them grow!

Friday, September 6, 2013

The larger of the babies in the brooder moved out to the juvenile area this afternoon.  They weren't too sure what to do with the different flooring, 

The six of them are feathering out nicely, I do believe there are a few roosters among them...
Oh, and I hear there are two new babies in the bantam Cochin pen...


Just right of the center in this photo is the beginnings of a cucumber.See the little flower at the end?


Here is a bit larger cucumber down lower in the garden box. This plant really struggled when I transplanted it, so I am thrilled to see it doing so well. Now to not let Wyatt see them until they are big enough to pick!


This is a volunteer plant that loves to creep up in this planter box each monsoon. I will try to look it up later, as I need to double check what it is (again.)


Here I go with sunset photos again. The storms were back, and parts of town got it good! We got a few sprinkles, but nothing much, it went around us. This is actually to the East, there were really good storms about twenty miles that way, as the crow flies.



This was to the South West, where there was actually a storm. As if on cue, it came back to drop a few more random drops after I took this photo. Still, nothing new in the rain carrels!


Anyone need prickly pear? In heavy production presently are the pomegranates and the prickly pear. We also have lots of spineless prickly pear plants available and herbs, too!


This barrel cactus is cute!I think it looks like it is trying for a cactus shaped like a snowman contest. Although he is really leaning over! leaning tower of cactus? 


Oh, well, time to get some work done! On a positive note, the missing goat registration paperwork has been found in another part of the state. A long story as to how it happened, but the folks where it was sent by mistake contacted me for the address today, so hopefully they are on their way soon!

By the way, these two items came home with me today from town. Any guess as to where this project is going? Stay tuned for updates, and have fun guessing along the way!


On a sad note, one of the old hens in the show pen, Annette the Silver Phoenix passed away this morning. Such a sweet, silly friend. She retired from showmanship a couple years back, since she only wanted to sit and nap on the table, but was very instrumental in keeping the young roo in the pen in line! I will make her a post a bit later.

Have a wonderful weekend everyone!



Thursday, June 20, 2013

Back from the Home School Convention and Busy as Ever!

Bailey and I had lots of fun learning at the Home School Convention last weekend.  Saturday night after it all wrapped up, we were energized and excited but also overwhelmed.  We loaded into the car and drove away from home instead of toward it, heading to Buckeye to pick up a new friend for our little herd.

In that crate is a sweet little doe, name Aqua Patch Across the Universe.  I do promise a few good photos to come, once this little doe is fully settled in to the swing of things at Patriot's Dream.  Also, Bailey is looking for a nickname, because Across the Universe is way too long!


On Monday, Wyatt and I pulled out the scale and weighed the little three week old Black Java chicks. So as of 17 June 2013:
#99: .67lb
#96: .52lb
#97: .43lb 


Wyatt and I played guess which are boys/ girls.  We had been thinking one roo, two pullets, but now with the tail feathers starting to grow in, we are not so sure.  We are enjoying trying to figure out while we wait and watch them grow.  We are also enjoying the weight comparisons with other heritage breeds we have raised and tracked through the growth process.


This one looked me straight in the eye, and was ready to go pack to her pen and play with the others.


I had to get the little requisite scale shot!


Well, this week, Wyatt, Bailey and I have lots of plans.  We are working on dividing one pen to keep a couple of roosters happy, fixing and doubling the grow out pen, and tomorrow we have plans for a field trip to the aquaponic store to see if we really do have most of the supplies needed for a special project Wyatt wants to try!  Wow.  Seeing as how it is already Thursday, we had best get busy!

Thursday, May 2, 2013

Adding to the Herd- Introductions and Adjustments







The reasons we choose to add to an existing herd of goats are many, from bringing in new bloodlines for a breeding program, to show wethers for folks wanting to do showmanship, or just because we love them and want more!  But for as much as we all adore our animals, the introductions of those new friends to the herd can sometimes be tricky or even tumultuous.

Just as poultry flocks have a pecking order, goat herds have political dynamics including the dominant does and crazy moms, and much more.  So new animals, whether dominant or passive in nature, have to figure out how they fit in and who they want for their best herd mate.  This takes time, patience, and enough of a watchful eye to make sure no one is hurt or isolated, but without interfering too much.  That can be a fine line to walk.

When Bailey, Wyatt and I brought home the first of our goats several years ago, we let them ride in the back seat of the Camry with the kids, and there were just the two does.  They hadn't been particularly good friends at the breeder's place, and Glory was a truly fussy dominant doe who had been returned from a home previously, and had never been worked with.  The breeder called her a nitwit, and said she wasn't much good for show but could make a good companion for the little show goat Bailey had selected.  It turns out, Glory usually placed at the front of her class, and the little show goat, spoiled little Vital was more friendly and less show goat.  She didn't place that well and as known for pirouettes during showmanship, but was really a sweet little goat who managed to win my husband over sitting on his lap.

Being new to goats, and to 4-H, in a club that didn't really want to work with the pygmy goat kid, Bailey and I believed folks at fair when they said she couldn't show the following year unless the one was bred.  So we carefully selected a couple of bucks, and chose to bring home two more does to add to the herd.  One doe had produced some wonderful babies in the past, and kidded easily, which made us more comfortable with this since pygmies can have lots of difficulty in the kidding department, and the other came from a well known breeding line, but had a few concerns and we sort of took in as a friend for the one we were bringing into the herd, hoping to manage the balance with an even number of goats.

Just yesterday, someone mentioned to me that we all rather expect the animals to get together and cuddle up and make friends.  I think we had sort of expected that, too, as our first time adding to the little herd.  But this isn't always how it works.

The four of them came home in crates in the back of the big farm truck, from the same breeder as the first time, and when they were introduced, the bucks wandered their pen and began to settle in, but the does squared off.  Glory and Treasure instantly began sizing one another up, determined to be the head of the herd.  There was competition for top spot on the play structures, head butting, ramming, talking, screaming, and even a little bullying over food.  I called the breeder, who said this was normal.  She gave me a couple hints, and Bailey and I worked on it all too, even employing the kind of tricks we had used in bringing home new dogs to help us out.

These are a few of the things we found to help:

  • Multiple food and water sources- We free feed hay pellets all the time.  I know some folks prefer to feed on a schedule so that it builds their appetite and keeps them eating, but Glory didn't maintain her weight well this way, and we have better luck with the free feeding.  Having more than one spot for food means you have to monitor a little more closely, so that food doesn't sit in one feeder and become stale while they eat out of the other, but it helps.  Sometimes mama does and their best doe pals won't let others eat when there are babies in the herd, too, so this is a good thing to have everyone used to.  Make sure the weather won't make the feed deteriorate quicker, keep a bit of shelter for it.  
  • Use their treats to bring them together.  When you go out to sit in the pen and spend time with your goats, let this be the time they get their treats, like their delicious tasting supplements or grain.  You will have to watch how much they get, but this helps everyone see they are all loved and wanted, and helps them realize you will make sure they all get treats and back scratches and affection.  Countless hours and research have been done while sitting int he pen with books.  Sometimes those goats who wanted to convince you of your uselessness will find you reading, and starting edging up to, then nuzzling you for attention.
  • If you do goat walks outside their pen, select pairs to walk together in a strategic manner.  Take two out that might both want to be in charge, letting them have that time together away from the remainder of the herd.  As a 4-Her, the walks were more Bailey's training thing, but since the first two hadn't been worked with, I walked Glory as Bailey walked Vital (Glory would through herself on the ground, so she had to learn that it took better behavior to get Bailey); then as we added to our little herd, Bailey would select two that needed to learn to know one another to have together in the pen, and she and I would walk the others far across the property.  Over time, those still in the pen would play while we all walked, or plan a prank like moving the house in front of the gate in protest of not getting the first walk.
  • Lots of Stimulation!  Balance beams, spools to jump on, playhouses, whatever you find your goats like, if there are enough of them in the goat enclosure, the goats will be physically occupied and will have far more stimulation that merely fussing at one another.  Happy, tired goats put less energy into the political wrangling of the herd.  Lots of prime bedding and sleeping spots help, too, and help each goat know that there is a place for her (or him).
  • Patience and a calm demeanor.  Our animals sense our apprehension, even the new ones who aren't sure what our apprehension means just yet.  This apprehension, coupled with the stress of being somewhere new, can lead to more acting out than they might otherwise be predisposed to do. Funny, but my husband has a habit of taking one of our dogs along running errands like taking things to his folks' house.  The men tend to not worry much whether their dogs will get along with ours, so once the initial my owner pets me first thing is out of the way, there are few troubles.  When his mom and grandma are around, they are worried over the dogs, and the dogs sense it and instinctively want to protect their owners.  Same dogs, different energy, different outcome.  It is the same with any animal.  Now, you don't have to have the same conversations with the herd that we do, like Bailey calling them silly goofballs who should know by now that her heart has enough love for all of them right before scooping one up on her lap for a cuddle, or the mama type conversations I have with them, but once they know they are all valued AND expected to get along, it tends to work out a little better and quicker.
  • Introduce more than one new member of the herd at a time.  This is NOT always possible, and is not a reason to go on a goat buying spree beyond the herd you can manage, and there are caveats to it.  Still, if you have two well bonded goats, and bring home one more, they may pick on the single one. If you are thinking of bringing home two new goats, even if not from the same herd, bringing them in at the same time, or quarantining them together can give them an ally in acclimating to a herd where every one else knows one another.  Kind of like having at least one friend on the first day at a new school. 
  • Use a barrier for the initial introduction.  if you can, divide a safe section off of the pen for the new animal(s).  They will acclimate to you, and see the remainder of the herd and meet them through the fence.  If you are dealing with quarantining new goats, see if there is any way to place the quarantining pen where they can see one another, then after the quarantine time has passed, bring them side by side with only the one fence for a short time before the actual herd introduction.  The new goat will likely have made a friend in your herd through the fence to hang out with once the introduction happens.